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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #183
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Sun, 20 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 183
-
- Today's Topics:
- A transmission line loss question
- CELLULAR SURVEILLANCE
- Good car choice for mobile (Honda Accord??)
- ham-univ mailing list
- Ham software for Mac
- Hamvention Parking
- HAM WANNABE
- MFJ speaker/mics for Yaesu FT530
- Noise Problem (and other noise sources)
- Scandinavian Repeater Scene?
- So what happened to the Kenwood TR-751 & TR-851 ?
- Tone Burst Whistle?
-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 00:44:17 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!tomb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: A transmission line loss question
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have a perverse question about feeding an antenna with a coaxial
- transmission line. This is intended as food for thought. (You've
- been warned ;-)
-
- Assume you have a 50 ohm antenna you want to use on a single
- frequency in the two meter band. You will be feeding it with
- about 100 feet of coax, which will be cut to an exact integer
- multiple number of half-wavelengths on the operating frequency.
- Which of the following two transmission lines will you choose
- to give lower loss?
-
- A. 50 ohm air-insulated copper line with 1" OD
-
- B. 75 ohm air-insulated copper line with 1" OD -- in other
- words, same line as in (A), but a smaller center conductor.
-
- 73, K7ITM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Feb 1994 23:24:11 GMT
- From: swrinde!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!kenw@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CELLULAR SURVEILLANCE
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- What scanner users -really- need is a control circuit for various
- TRUNKING systems! How about developing a low-cost (<$100) circuit
- to do that? You listening CSI?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 01:15:34 GMT
- From: world!dts@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Good car choice for mobile (Honda Accord??)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <markehCLFyo1.EtI@netcom.com> markeh@netcom.com (Mark Helfen) writes:
- >Appreciate any help::
- >
- >I am looking for a new car. My first choice was a Honda Accord. When the
- >dealer called the factory rep to ask about mobile radio installations, the
- >reply was: "We don't know anything about that. We have guidlines for
- >installing equipment we sell (ie: stereos) only. If you install any other
- >equipment (ham equip) you are on your own. Any damage you do is your
- >responsility". (not a direct quote - just my interpretation of what I
- >heard)
- >
- >SO.... I still need a car, and would appreciate any help from people who
- >have been down this path
- >
- >-- Have you installed a mobile rig in a recent (93, or 94) Honda, and what
- >was your experience.
- >
- >-- Can you reccomend another car (similar size/price/quality), recent/new
- >model, where you have had success with an install, and didn't fry the
- >ignition computer, etc...
- >
- >
- >Thanks for your help
- >
- >Mark
- >
- >KM6FM
- >
- >
- >
-
- Some Hondas are rolling wide-band RF noise sources. This is certainly
- true of N1JIT's car. Honda's people at their US headquarters were rather
- hostile on the telephone when I asked about the issue. With customer
- service like that, I'll buy an american car next time, and the japanese
- economy can continue to plummet...
-
- I should note that Nissan of America sent a pretty good set of sheets to
- me in which they indicated maximum power levels at different frequencies
- that they recommend. It was generally pretty positive.
-
- Ed Hare at the ARRL sent letters to the various auto manufacturers asking
- about radio installation. The responses varied. I have a copy of the
- letter from Chrysler, in which they indicate which extra ordering code
- to use when ordering a new car to be built. This code will ensure the
- installation of electronics modules which are specially shielded. Chrysler
- has been doing a lot of work to ensure their cars do not have these
- problems, too.
-
- GM has a booklet out on the subject. I was very impressed to see a GM
- booth at Dayton last year. The folks in the booth were GM hams, who were
- handing out info on proper installation of radio gear.
-
- Based on positive info from the US companies, and mixed to negative from
- Honda, I'll probably buy american next time.
-
- --
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
- Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com
- Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com
- 508-365-5352 Compuserve: 74176,1347
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 17:40:16 MST
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ham-univ mailing list
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I need the address of the ham-univ mailing list. Can someone mail it
- asap to me, I have a problem I need the expertise of the group.
-
- david dodell, wb7tpy
-
- ---
- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
- Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 21:49:28 GMT
- From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!oakhill!spud!geraldg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ham software for Mac
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm looking for satellite tracking, DX database, packet and other radio
- related software recommendations for my Mac. Please respond via email.
-
- Thanks,
- Gerald
- ---
- Gerald W. Garcia, P.E. N5UMB Motorola Inc., MD: TX30/OE37
- Senior Design Engineer 6501 Wm. Cannon Dr. West
- geraldg@spud.sps.mot.com Austin, TX 78735-8598
- (512) 891-2806 (voice) (512) 891-8315 (fax)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 07:27:45 GMT
- From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!sww@ames.arpa
- Subject: Hamvention Parking
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Let's see ...
- They spent $90k last year and the busses were crowded.
- They are spending about half of that this year.
- Or ..
- I can park in the mud and walk in the street.
-
- Hmmmmm.
-
- 73,
- Steve, NO8M
-
- (Still hearing about KP4s, HCs, and other DX friends not coming
- due to this, too.)
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 20 Feb 1994 00:07:27 -0800
- From: nntp.crl.com!crl2.crl.com!not-for-mail@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: HAM WANNABE
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I've always wanted to get into HAM radio. How do I start? What do I need
- to do?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 11:46:10 EST
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!linus!linus.mitre.org!mwvm.mitre.org!M14494@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: MFJ speaker/mics for Yaesu FT530
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >I am considering getting an MFJ speaker/mic...
-
- I have one for my Yaesu. It works ok, but not great. The
- sound quality is tinny and pitched toward the high end;
- none of this is surprising considering the small size.
- It's usable, and the small size is nice; an ok deal for
- the money.
-
- Mike, N4PDY
-
- *These are my opinions only*
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:07:12 GMT
- From: psinntp!sunsrvr6!jdc@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Noise Problem (and other noise sources)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2jqq6i$glg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
- Ignacy Misztal <ignacy@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
- >Sources of broadband noise in my house:
- >1. Light dimmers,
- >2. TV set,
- >3. Fluorescent lights.
- >
- >Ignacy Misztal, NO9E, SP8FWB
- >ignacy@uiuc.edu
-
- I had a MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) in a "surge supressor" go bad. They
- to into a partially-conducting mode, sorta like a SCR dimmer switch.
-
- And some electronic ballast flourescent lights are really bad. We have
- some Lights of America flourescent lights with FCC Part-15 tags.
-
- 73...Jim
- N2VNO
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 07:17:00 MST
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Scandinavian Repeater Scene?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I might be traveling to Stockholm, Denmark, and Norway soon. Can anyone
- fill me in on the VHF/UHF repeater situation, frequencies, tone burst
- etc?
-
- david
-
- ---
- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
- Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 07:19:07 GMT
- From: agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!wroth@ames.arpa
- Subject: So what happened to the Kenwood TR-751 & TR-851 ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Brian Cuthie (brian@umbc.edu) wrote:
- : Upon trying to buy a Kenwood TR-851A, I was told that it was
- : "quietly discontinued" by Kenwood. Does anyone have any idea why?
-
- I think the TR-851A only operated between 430 and 440 MHz, and probably
- didn't sell very well.
-
- Wayne Roth
- WA2n
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 14:22:52 MST
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Tone Burst Whistle?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have an ICOM 24AT which I would like to use with tone burst. Is there
- a way to do this easily?
-
- I understand that someone sells a tone-burst whistle which immitates the
- tone to prevent internal modification of a radio.
-
- Anyone heard or know where I can get one of these?
-
- david
-
- ---
- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
- Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 10:50:20 -0500
- From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu!cunyvm!rohvm1!rohvm1.mah48d@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CLAz5v.Iss@news.direct.net>, <2jtq4nINNl22@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, <CLC8su.DCt@news.direct.net>hvm
- Subject : Re: John Ramsey
-
- In article <CLC8su.DCt@news.direct.net>, kg7bk@indirect.com (Cecil Moore)
- wrote:
-
- >
- > Your experience has been different from mine. I had 100 times the trouble
- > out of Heathkits that I had with Ramsey kits. You probably weren't around
- > for the '50s when it was a miracle if a Heathkit ever worked.
- >
-
- Really?! I've built Heathkits from the original oscilloscope and AT-1
- transmitter right up through their kit 2-m HT, and had _very_ few problems
- that weren't my own stupidity (back in the '50's I was known to make a cold
- solder joint occasionally). Think I had one bad relay in my HW-100 that
- they promptly replaced, can't recall any other problems in well over twenty
- kits.
-
- Only built one Ramsey kit, their 40-m qrp transmitter. Very simple
- circuit, but it doesn't work. (Oscillator stage is okay, but the final
- doesn't amplify.) Haven't had a chance to troubleshoot it yet, so can't
- rule out my own stupidity, but Ramsey doesn't have a good track record with
- me.
-
- --
- 73 de John Taylor W3ZID
- rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 07:45:50 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CLEFKx.91K@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, <CLFEpB.Iqy@news.direct.net>, <2k3apaINNmjf@abyss.West.Sun.COM>
- Subject : Re: Spectral purity of 2m tx (was Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER
-
- In article <2k3apaINNmjf@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers ) writes:
- >
- >Anyway, comparing 1kW on 11m to the amateur rules is pointless.
- >Amateurs have historically been very proud of a strict compliance
- >to the rules, and frequently ridicule 11m folks for not complying
- >with the appropriate rules. I should hope you aren't condoning the
- >operation of radios with illegal harmonic outputs on sensitive aero bands.
-
- Why not? You'll defend a pirate who posts 6MHz air-to-ground
- frequencies on rec.radio.cb in answer to a query posted by an other
- pirate as to what frequencies other illegals were using outside of
- 11M. Don't sound so high and mighty on here Dana while at the same time
- defend illegals posting (inviting?) pirate operation on air-to-ground
- channels.
-
- Oh, and let's not forget your coming to Shoup's defense (December) after
- I chastised him for stating he was going to put a 5kw xmtr on the ham
- bands.
-
- Make up your mind as to which side of the law you stand on.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- It's too bad, but we often find that the kind of independent spirit
- and just plain cussed stubborness that leads a guy to go out on his
- own and start a neat new business, also seems to result in a brusque
- and bluff attitude towards the clientele. Somehow, Ten Tec seems to
- have separated the cussed stubborn guys who can make a venture in
- a niche market work, against all odds, from the kind of flexible and
- accomodating folks who keep the customers happy.
-
- Apparently, Ramsey hasn't.
-
- Two companies. Similar beginnings. I'm afraid one is going down a very
- different road than the one paved by the other.
-
- Greg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:39:44 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!pitstop.mcd.mot.com!mcdphx!schbbs!waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com!user@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <patrick_tatro.27.7C558180@stortek.com>, <rcrw90-160294163435@waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com>, <2k0eup$k3o@crcnis1.unl.edu>
- Subject : Re: Keyboards at testing sessions
-
- In article <2k0eup$k3o@crcnis1.unl.edu>, mcduffie@unlinfo.unl.edu (Gary
- McDuffie Sr) wrote:
-
- > rcrw90@email.mot.com (Mike Waters) writes:
- >
- > >The easiest way would be to disable (remove?) the hard drive and run with
- > >only the operasting system and typing software. (Obviously *not* a morse
- > >reader of any type :-) You have to be able to demonstrate that t he hard
- > >drive is empty or disabled though.
- >
- > Okay, what am I missing? What has the hard drive got to do with it?
- > Why would you care about a hard drive? Does Seagate put out HDs that
- > can copy code now? And as for a "morse reader", how would it be able
- > to copy in a testing environment? This guy is sweating a test. He
- > doesn't have time to load some program to help him cheat, if there was
- > such a program. Just watch him like you would all the other testees,
- > maybe a little closer, if you like. I think you will find that you ae
- > being paranoid for no reason.
-
- I have no idea what help someone could get from a program, that is not the
- point.
-
- My problem is that this is somewhat like the reasoning that led up to the
- Challenger disaster.
-
- The need is not to show that someone *is* or *could* cheat, but for them to
- prove that they *could not* cheat.. If you want to use some piece of
- equipment in a testing session *you* must show that (a) you are not using
- it to cheat and (b) it won't disturb the other test takers.
-
- Showing an empty hard drive or none at all is one very easy way to do this.
- Certainly there are other waysto do this. Remember the onus in not on the
- VEs to try to anticipate every possible way for someone to cheat, but to
- ensure fair tests
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 22:45:17 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <x8yqthx.jramsey@delphi.com>, <2jqu8k$96m@news.acns.nwu.edu>, <n1istCLEJFt.E7C@netcom.com>com.co
- Subject : Re: RAMSEY FX TRANSCEIVER
-
- In article <n1istCLEJFt.E7C@netcom.com> n1ist@netcom.com (Michael L. Ardai) writes:
- >
- >Why do I feel that Ten Tec is more likely to make kits that will work, meet
- >FCC spec, and not thump when the squelch closes?
- >
- This is sort of interesting from a number of perspectives:
-
- First, Ten-Tec got its start making kits, some QRP transceivers which
- were, by some accounts, pretty horrendous as to performance and spectral
- purity. You could buy anything from boards up to the complete transceiver.
- The latter was pretty rinky, and sort of ignored the idea of 'shielding.'
-
- Then came the Argonaut 505. A lot less rinky-tink but still not the
- pinacle of sophisticated engineering. The 509 was better, and so on...
-
- What's the difference between Ten Tec and Ramsey, that will probably
- mean that one will still be around after twenty more years?
-
- Well, Ten Tec is LEGENDARY for treating their customers like gold.
- In fact, they do so well at this that they seem to be making a go of
- it without the dealer network who, by all accounts, pushed the higher
- margin competition and whose attitudes and approaches was inferior to
- Ten Tec's own.
-
- ------------------------------
-
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